Annual Graduate Student Recognition Celebration

Understanding the health impacts of wildfire smoke on vulnerable communities

Aleah Bailey, doctoral student in toxicology

“Wildfires are becoming a bigger public health issue due to worsening climate conditions like extreme heat, high winds and drought. They are increasingly common across the country, including in North Carolina. The smoke from these fires contains tiny particles that can cause inflammation in the lungs and body. Disadvantaged communities suffer more severe health problems after wildfires, but traditional risk assessments often overlook their stress-related vulnerabilities.

My research looks at how stress affects people's health after exposure to wildfire smoke. My analysis showed that stress altered inflammatory responses to woodsmoke. This means people with high stress and recent smoke exposure may have worse health outcomes

By including stress in risk assessments and studying disadvantaged communities, we can create better strategies to improve health outcomes related to pollution.”

Considering North Carolina farmworkers' experiences through storytelling

Sarah Blanton, doctoral student in romance studies

“Across North Carolina, laborers work in the sweltering summer heat, harvesting crops that communities rely on. By late autumn, many of these workers board buses back to Mexico until the next peak agricultural season approaches. As of January 2022, an estimated 2.9 million migrant farmworkers work in the US, most of whom come from Mexico. North Carolina hosts between 14,000 and 17,000 seasonal farmworkers each year. Despite their crucial role in food production, their lives and contributions are often overlooked.

My dissertation explores the experiences of farmworkers through various forms of storytelling, considering things such as songs, short stories, cleanly plowed fields, and marigold flowers in rural North Carolina as narratives. I combine these with ethnographic descriptions, archival materials and literature to highlight this essential community and consider their experiences.

My project focuses on what transnational labor looks like locally through active community participation. I hope my research encourages dialogue on how local communities with deep agricultural roots can become more integrated, inclusive, and appreciative of these laborers.”

Preventing maternal morbidity through prenatal care

Laura Chaves Cerdas, doctoral student in public policy

“My research aims to find out whether pregnant women in North Carolina who have diabetes or high blood pressure can prevent serious health problems during birth by going to the recommended number of prenatal visits.

Going to prenatal care visits helps detect problems early in pregnancy and prevent serious health problems during birth. It can also encourage healthy habits that benefit them for life. In 2021, 1.21% of pregnant women in North Carolina had diabetes and 3.39% had high blood pressure. Properly managing these conditions during pregnancy through prenatal care can improve health outcomes for both mothers and babies.

I discovered that for North Carolinians from 2011 to 2019, not going to enough prenatal care visits increased the chances of serious health problems during birth. This effect was even stronger for people with diabetes or high blood pressure. I hope my research highlights the importance of attending prenatal care visits for pregnant women in North Carolina.”

Improving transportation systems for NC patients experiencing mental health crises

Jeremy Fine, MD-PhD student in health policy and management

“In North Carolina, members of our community experiencing mental health emergencies are often transported by law enforcement. This can be traumatic and make them feel like criminals, which might prevent them from seeking help in the future. The Non-Law Enforcement Transportation (NLET) Program is a new $20 million state project that aims to provide a more compassionate, patient-friendly way to transport these individuals.

To see how well this program works, I led a team to create a detailed plan. We will use surveys and interviews with patients and their families, and get feedback from healthcare workers, police and transportation providers. We'll also analyze data about how services are used and paid for. This will help us see if the program makes patients' experiences better, reduces forced hospitalizations, lowers costs, and ensures everyone has fair access to the service.

Once this plan is executed, the findings will help North Carolina officials decide whether the NLET Program should be expanded statewide. It will also guide other states considering similar programs. By promoting a more compassionate approach to crisis care, my work aims to improve mental health systems and reduce the trauma people experience during psychiatric emergencies.”

Ecological practices to promote NC oyster populations

Nicholas Funnell, doctoral student in ecology

“Since 2003, North Carolina has established nearly 3,000 acres of oyster farms and protected areas as part of its goal to become “The Napa Valley of Oysters.” While this focus on oysters is promising, the reality is that oyster farms in NC have experienced severe die-offs, often losing over 90% of their oysters. Wild reefs have also suffered, losing nearly half their adult oysters in two years, showing that this problem isn't limited to farms.

Oysters are very important for the health of the ecosystem, and their loss affects NC communities in ways beyond just having fewer oysters to sell. In my research, I studied oyster-related practices in NC and suggested some changes to help improve oyster health.

First, I discovered that moving young oysters from saltier to fresher waters can help them grow and survive by reducing the number of predators. Second, I learned that harvesting only large adult oysters from reefs appears to be sustainable. Third, the location and equipment used in oyster farms can help reduce water pollution, but this needs to be analyzed for each specific site and isn't a one-size-fits-all solution. While these small changes can't fix major water quality issues, they can still help oyster populations and the people who depend on them.”

Improving flood hazard models for hurricane risk assessment

Lauren Grimley, doctoral student in earth marine, and environmental sciences

“Hurricanes are a major concern for North Carolina because they cause widespread flooding, which damages homes, public infrastructure, and the economy. Hurricane flooding is complicated because it can be caused by many factors like sea level, storm surge, waves, wind, rainfall and streamflow. However, traditional flood models usually consider only one factor and are not very detailed. This is an issue because these models are needed to understand risk, set building standards, prevent development in risky areas, and set flood insurance requirements. To make good decisions and reduce future damage, communities need accurate and detailed flood risk assessments.

In my dissertation, I use a flood model that takes into account multiple factors to provide better flood hazard information for hurricanes impacting eastern North and South Carolina. I use this model to study how climate change, such as more rainfall and stronger storms, could worsen flooding from storms to determine who and what may be exposed.

My results show that heavy rainfall from hurricanes in the future will not only generate more flooding inland but will worsen flooding at the coast which is also exposed to storm surge. These extreme storms will generate flooding over larger areas, producing greater flood depths that impact infrastructure and people. For example, I found that if Hurricane Florence (2018) happened in a warmer climate, the number of affected buildings and roads would double. The flood data created as a part of my dissertation is being used by state-level organizations responsible for infrastructure design, flood recovery, and adaptation planning, like the NC Office of Recovery and Resilience (NCORR) and NC Department of Transportation (NCDOT).”

Building psychological resilience among active-duty military service members

Kenneth Harris, III, doctoral student in social work

“North Carolina is home to many active-duty military members, ranking fourth in the US. It houses over 8.5% of the nation's active military force, which includes nearly 100,000 service members and over 112,000 family members.

Many service members join the military to find better opportunities and resources, especially those from difficult backgrounds. Sadly, studies show that 1 in 4 service members suffer from mental health problems like depression and suicidal thoughts. These challenges are often exacerbated by the demands of military life. Minority service members face even more difficulties with mental health and getting treatment, which means they need new ways to get help.

Psychological resilience is a strengths-based approach to mental health that focuses on dignity and self-worth. My dissertation aims to find new ways to build psychological resilience among minority service members and their families. For this research, I am using data from a 2021 military unit wellness survey completed at Fort Bragg, NC to help create strategies for building resilience.”

Addressing burnout among North Carolina healthcare professionals

Elizabeth Kwong, doctoral student in biomedical and health informatics

“My research addresses healthcare professionals’ burnout and well-being in North Carolina. Burnout is very common among healthcare workers and negatively affects their well-being, leading to a higher risk of medical errors and patient harm.

We used a systems analysis approach to measure burnout, identify its causes, and find ways to improve the situation based on feedback from healthcare teams. We provided detailed reports and practical recommendations to leaders in over six different medical departments at UNC Health, including emergency medicine, plastic surgery and trauma surgery.

Our work outlines easy-to-implement methods to identify burnout and suggests improvements that can be applied in other healthcare settings. This research directly benefits healthcare professionals in North Carolina by giving health system leaders high-impact, low-effort recommendations.

Results showed that burnout rates among healthcare professionals ranged from 56% to 88%, with causes varying by department. Common issues included inefficient workflows, excessive workload, the severity of patients' conditions, and work-life balance. We provided customized recommendations to each department to address their specific needs, such as improving patient workflows, protecting time for breaks, and aligning job responsibilities. These recommendations are now being implemented by department leaders with support from the Division of Healthcare Engineering. Our approach is also being used to address burnout and well-being in other departments across UNC Health.”

Impact of multiple factors on the financial and mental well-being of NC breast cancer survivors

Olufeyisayo Odebunmi, doctoral student in health policy and management

“Even though breast cancer survival rates have improved across the country, racial inequalities still exist. In North Carolina, White women are more likely to get breast cancer, but Black women are more likely to die from it. Dealing with breast cancer can cause stress and financial problems, and Black women in NC are affected more than others.

My research looks at how different factors affect the financial and mental health of Black and White breast cancer survivors. The first part of my study examines how individual and area-level factors impact mental health and financial difficulties. The second part involves interviewing Black breast cancer survivors in NC to understand what affects their emotional well-being.

By finding out how these factors influence mental and financial outcomes, my research aims to provide important evidence to help make systemic changes. This could reduce barriers and improve mental health and fairness for breast cancer survivors.”

Improving transportation for Medicaid beneficiaries in North Carolina

Annie Oommen, master’s student in city and regional planning

“In July 2021, most Medicaid beneficiaries in North Carolina switched from a fee-for-service model to Managed Care. This change divided responsibility for coordinating non-emergency medical transportation, a free service for all beneficiaries, among several different groups.

My research highlights the ways that Medicaid beneficiaries in North Carolina are struggling to access healthcare under the new system. Policymakers need to use these findings to fix the unintended problems caused by the Medicaid Transformation to ensure that vulnerable populations have the same mobility as everyone else.

For those who can't drive due to physical ability, legal status or cost, these transportation services are their link to all types of non-emergency care, from regular chemotherapy to treatment for acute conditions like shingles. The quality and reliability of non-emergency medical transportation services can mean the difference between life and death. Given the demographics of Medicaid, this work directly impacts low-income, elderly, disabled and rural North Carolinians from the mountains to the coast.”

Improving health outcomes through collaborative public health leadership

Courtney Peragallo, recent master’s graduate in public health

“Recent research shows how the COVID-19 pandemic affected the most vulnerable communities in the United States, revealing health inequities while providing a roadmap for improving health in marginalized communities. North Carolina's COVID-19 response, led by Mandy Cohen, is seen as a nationwide model for community engagement and crisis response.

Statewide partnerships and strengthened public health preparedness led to significant results for marginalized populations. These include reducing racial disparities in COVID-19 death rates, increasing access to testing and treatment for Black/African American and Hispanic communities, and improving professional training for students at public universities like UNC-Chapel Hill and 12 Historically Black Colleges and Universities.

Our research looks at how collaborative public health leadership improved COVID-19 outcomes and prepared future leaders to handle crises. The impact of partnerships across different fields reduced racial disparities and promoted health equity for those who faced barriers in accessing COVID-19 testing, treatment, and vaccines.

Building a diverse network of partners from state government, academia, healthcare and marginalized communities helps advance health equity. By bringing together all these partners, we can reduce disparities in vaccine and testing access, improve public health leadership skills, and enhance state-level public health preparedness.”

Health impacts of environmental hazards on migrant farmworkers

Sarah Perry and Charlotte Robbins, recent master’s graduates in public health

“Farmwork is one of the most essential and dangerous jobs in the United States. North Carolina, a top agriculture-producing state, hosts up to 70,000 migrant farmworkers and their families annually. These workers face unique stressors such as environmental hazards like pesticides and heat, poor access to healthcare, and discrimination.

We partnered with NC FIELD, a farmworker advocacy organization in eastern North Carolina, to collect stories from farmworkers about how these challenges affect their health and lives.

We also looked at how policies on migration, housing, and labor impact their health and access to services. Our goal is to improve policies to protect farmworkers.

This fall, we supported OSHA’s proposed rule on heat protection for farmworkers and suggested ways to strengthen it. Our work has helped maintain UNC’s partnership with NC FIELD and created new opportunities for collaboration.

We are thankful for NC FIELD's guidance. Together, we aim to share our findings with farmworkers and advocate for their health and well-being.”

Impact of representation in children’s literature on North Carolina kindergarteners

Jennifer Stone, recent doctoral graduate in speech and hearing sciences

“Since 2017, North Carolina has invested over $25 million in Dolly Parton’s Imagination Library to distribute picture books to nearly half of the state's young children. The goal is to improve family literacy and economic development, based on research linking book ownership to better academic outcomes and a more educated workforce. However, the content of these books can shape children's views of themselves and society, and many award-winning books contain stereotypes that reinforce cultural biases. Policymakers might not have considered the impact of all kindergarteners owning the same set of 60 books.

My analysis of the 60 books given to kindergarteners in 2022 showed improved racial diversity compared to other collections. However, there were no representations of people with disabilities or those who identify as LGBTQ+. This means children and families in North Carolina with these identities did not see themselves in the Imagination Library.

Additionally, the collection included negative clichés about reading and stereotypes that favor White, middle-class, heterosexual, and able-bodied norms, often placing the responsibility on mothers to shape their children to fit social expectations. This could lead to negative biases about literacy and culture in families and classrooms. Accurate representation is essential for our society.”

Julia Brom, chemistry

2025 Dean's Distinguished Dissertation Award, Biological and Life Sciences

Dry Proteins and their Protection Assessed by LOVE NMR, Calorimetry, and Catalytic Activity

Dissertation Adviser: Gary Joseph Pielak

“The availability of lifesaving protein drugs and powerful industrial enzymes is hindered by their instability in solution, necessitating costly refrigeration. Dehydration is an alternative as dry proteins may be stored at room temperature, but most proteins only survive drying when appropriately formulated with protective molecules. Nevertheless, the protective mechanisms are poorly understood, making dry protein formulation empirical and often unsuccessful. My dissertation illuminates these mechanisms by investigating and connecting residue-level dry protein structure and functional protection after rehydration. These studies uncovered new phenomena surrounding protein protection in the dry state and weighed in on existing hypotheses. My research provides a foundation for better formulation of dry protein products.”

Adams Sibley, health behavior

2025 Dean's Distinguished Dissertation Award, Social Sciences

Determining the Feasibility and Acceptability of a Novel Stigma Resistance Text Message Intervention for People who Use Drugs

Dissertation Adviser: Vivian Fei-ling Go

“People who use drugs face stigma from all corners of society yet have few resources to cope with prejudice and discrimination. Many internalize and accept these negative beliefs about themselves. In this dissertation, I first offer two new frameworks for understanding substance use stigma based on surveys and interviews with people who use drugs in rural Appalachia. Then, I describe my process of creating an automated text message program designed to help people cope with and resist substance use stigma using theory-based supportive messages. Finally, I discuss the outcomes of a 4-week trial of the program I conducted. I find that the program is highly acceptable to participants and feasible to conduct, with promising evidence of reducing self-stigma and improving self-esteem. Given its pertinence to desirable outcomes like help-seeking and undesirable outcomes like overdose, I conclude that stigma deserves greater attention in our efforts to stem the tide of the overdose epidemic.”

Pa Chia Thao, physics and astronomy

2025 Dean's Distinguished Dissertation Award, Mathematics, Physical Sciences and Engineering

Windows Into Planetary Evolution: the Detection and Characterization of Young Planets

Dissertation Adviser: Andrew W. Mann

“A fundamental challenge in exoplanet research is unraveling how planets form and evolve, and become the diverse worlds we see across the galaxy. By analyzing the light that passes through their atmospheres as they orbit their host stars, we can identify the elements and molecules present in these planets. While this technique has transformed our understanding of planetary atmospheres, most studies have focused on older systems, leaving early formation stages largely unexplored. To bridge this gap, my dissertation investigates three newly formed exoplanets — each less than a billion years old — using ground- and space-based telescopes, including the Hubble Space Telescope and the James Webb Space Telescope. This research not only sheds light on how planetary composition changes over time but also helps us better understand how planets, including those in our solar system, come into existence. ”

Jennifer Wu, art history

2025 Dean's Distinguished Dissertation Award, Humanities and Fine Arts

The Metapictorial Portrait in Early Modern Britain, 1520-1620

Dissertation Adviser: Tatiana C. String

“My dissertation investigates portrait paintings produced during a transformative historical period in which artistic techniques and tenets from the European continent converged with the pictorial traditions of the geographically peripheral regions of England and Scotland. By examining a variety of Tudor and Jacobean paintings, I argue that native and émigré painters forged eclectic and resourceful visual strategies that engaged with complex issues of artistic representation. During this time, portraiture emerged as the dominant genre of painting in early modern Britain.”

Raeanne Geffert

Raeanne Geffert, a third-year doctoral student in the UNC Eshelman School of Pharmacy, is the recipient of the 2025 Boka W. Hadzija Award for Distinguished University Service by a Graduate or Professional Student.

Geffert attended Bucknell University and worked as a researcher in the pharmaceutical industry before coming to Carolina to pursue her Ph.D.

In addition to her outstanding scholarly work, Geffert’s nominations noted her efforts to mentor fellow students and her active engagement in volunteer efforts such as WinSPIRE, an organization promoting STEM education among women and underrepresented groups.

“Raeanne does a significant amount of work on top of her research and teaching assistantships, and I am grateful for her service, as it enhances the educational experience of our graduate students.

Raeanne’s character and leadership qualities are exceptional and among the best of all students in our program’s 20+ year history. She is routinely the first to volunteer for various department service activities and leads by example.”

Nicole Rose Lukesh, pharmaceutical sciences

Nicole Rose Lukesh, a Ph.D. candidate in pharmaceutical sciences, received the top prize during UNC-Chapel Hill’s annual Three Minute Thesis (3MT) competition. In March, she competed again at the 3MT regionals in Dallas, TX, where she placed in the top ten—that is to say, in the top 20% of competitors from the Council of Southern Graduate Schools, an organization that encompasses fifteen states. Lukesh’s research seeks to restore mobility to multiple sclerosis patients. The Graduate School sponsored Lukesh’s attendance at the Council of Southern Graduate Schools annual meeting as part of the CareerWell Professional Development initiative.

“Nicole Rose is proof that our graduate students can compete in any venue. Her work resonates with nonspecialists, who are drawn in by her compelling storytelling and use of cultural touchstones. It is an honor to support graduate students like Nicole Rose as they communicate discoveries that will improve the future of all North Carolinians,” said Vanessa Doriott Anderson, assistant dean for academic and career development at The Graduate School.

View Nicole Rose Lukesh’s campus 3MT presentation.

Vilma Berg, Joint Department of Biomedical Engineering

Vilma Berg, graduate student services manager in the Joint Department of Biomedical Engineering, is the 2025 recipient of the Excellence in Graduate Student Services Award.

Vilma has served Carolina’s students for more than 20 years and currently works with graduate students at both UNC and North Carolina State University who are part of the Joint BME program. She not only received an overwhelming number of nominations, but the students in her department submitted deeply passionate and heartfelt statements about why she deserves this award. Vilma goes out of her way to connect with students and find needed resources for them while displaying unparalleled kindness and compassion. This is all the more impressive because she manages student services across two campuses for this joint department. Vilma was described multiple times as “the backbone” of the BME program with one student saying,

“Vilma is a truly remarkable student services manager. There is no one who is more deserving of the Excellence in Graduate Student Services Award.”

Alexander Miller, chemistry

Alexander Miller is the director of graduate studies and a professor in the department of chemistry.

Numerous people nominated Alex for this award because of his exceptional leadership as the director of graduate studies for the department of chemistry.

Alex is described as someone who tirelessly advocates for graduate students and genuinely seeks to hear their concerns and effectively address their concerns. This commitment was noted in almost every nomination and letter of support for Alex as they praised his impact through implementing town hall meetings for graduate students and helping to found SWELL, a wellness initiative dedicated to fostering a supportive and healthy community for graduate students and postdoctoral scholars. One nomination read,

“Throughout my time in the department of chemistry, Alex has served as a role model and phenomenal leader for our community. Alex’s charisma and encouragement as director of graduate studies has been immensely important towards my development as a scientist, and I am certain from first-hand accounts that the same is true for many of my peers. Alex is a passionate and dedicated leader, and an overwhelmingly positive cornerstone of this department.”

Beverly Wyrick

Beverly Wyrick, served UNC-Chapel Hill from 1993 until her retirement in 2025. She joined The Graduate School in 2006 and rose to become associate dean of finance and operations.

Beverly’s extensive knowledge and dedication to Carolina’s mission earned her respect from our partners across campus. She worked diligently with every school and academic units to strategically deploy financial resources to best support graduate and professional students. As every dean she served alongside attests, Beverly’s experience, warmth and sense of humor were essential to carrying out The Graduate School’s mission for many years. Every staff member of The Graduate School who served during Beverly’s tenure misses her dearly.

Andrew McMillan

Andrew McMillan, is the CEO of Jefferson Distribution Company in Martinsburg, WV. He is a Carolina alumnus, earning his B.S. in chemistry from UNC-Chapel Hill and a Ph.D. in chemistry from Emory University. He has served on the UNC Board of Visitors and on the advisory board for the UNC department of chemistry.

Most recently, Andrew was a member of the Graduate Education Advancement Board from 2013–2023, serving as chair from 2018–2023. Under his leadership, the board not only provided generous gifts supporting UNC graduate students, but also engaged in thoughtful discussions and suggestions to advance graduate education at our University.

Together with his wife, Kakie, Andrew supported numerous Summer Research Fellowships and Impact Awards and many of The Graduate School’s new initiatives over the last decade. Andrew has given so much to advancing graduate education at Carolina. The Graduate School and UNC graduate students owe him a debt of gratitude.

Joel Begay

Joel Begay is a doctoral student in cancer epidemiology at the UNC Gillings School of Global Public Health. Raised on the Navajo Nation in Shiprock, NM, he brings both personal and professional experiences to his research on understanding the social and biological factors contributing to delayed cancer diagnoses. His journey into public health is grounded in community, identity, and a deep sense of responsibility.

Beyond research, Begay represents epidemiology students as a senator in the Graduate and Professional Student Government, advocating for policies that support student well-being and fostering constructive dialogue. He also serves on the steering committee of the Graduate Student Experience Initiative, working to improve the experience of graduate students across the University. Most recently, he co-founded the UNC Association of Native American Medical Students, serving as treasurer.

Begay describes his approach to leadership as “loving service,” a philosophy grounded in humility, compassion, and a desire to uplift others. “I do all of this work because it’s my way of paying it forward,” he said. Begay’s long-term goal is to become an educator dedicated to building public health infrastructure through teaching and mentorship of the next generation of epidemiologists.

Rebecca Lesnefsky

Rebecca Lesnefsky is a dedicated educator and researcher graduating this year with a doctorate in culture, curriculum, and teacher education (CCTE) from the UNC School of Education. Her research centers on preparing teachers-in-training and developing innovative curricula by integrating socio-scientific issues. She has led curriculum development projects, conducted professional development workshops, and worked closely with teachers to implement these curricula in their classrooms.

Having grown up in a small town in East Texas, Lesnefsky is committed to improving rural education. She demonstrated this commitment through her work supporting teachers in under-resourced rural North Carolina communities. As a student, Lesnefsky cofounded the CCTE professional seminar, served as the assistant director and lead supervisor for the M.A. in teaching program, and was actively involved in recruiting and mentoring her fellow graduate students in the School of Education.

After graduating, Lesnefsky will become a tenure-track assistant professor in education at SUNY Cortland. Her work will focus on elementary STEM teacher education, and she hopes to continue improving science education by discovering ways to help teachers deliver innovative curricula.

“I want to focus on how we prepare teachers to do what they have not done before in the classroom,” Lesnefsky said. “Whether it’s navigating controversial conversations or being inquiry-driven in situations where there is no easy answer, I want to contribute to rethinking how we approach learning science.”

Verdant Julius

Verdant Julius is a graduating master’s student in the maternal and child health department. He is passionate about improving the health of families and communities through research, policy and advocacy. Julius has applied his academic training across North Carolina, including in nonprofits, a hospital system, academic institutions, and the North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services.

As a research assistant in the Fry Lab, Julius leads a project focused on adverse childhood experiences and maternal health and has shared his research at professional and community conferences. Through his fellowships with the North Carolina Black Alliance and the NC DHHS, he has worked to enhance healthcare access, implement community programs, and advocate for equitable health policies.

Julius has served in numerous leadership roles within the Gilling School of Global Public Health, including as co-president of the Minority Student Caucus, as a representative for his classmates in the MCH department, and as a student ambassador for the Gillings admissions office. He has also continued to give back to his alma mater, North Carolina A&T State University, by speaking on panels and mentoring students, some of whom he has guided to graduate programs at Carolina.

After graduating, Verdant will remain at Carolina as a doctoral student in epidemiology. He aims to work as an applied epidemiologist for a state or federal health agency and then sees himself returning to academia as a research professor. He ultimately hopes to teach, establish a research lab, and train the next generation of public health scholars.

“I believe that what I do must have a meaningful impact on the people and the world around me,” Verdant said. “I am dedicated to improving the social welfare of communities and helping to create a world that we haven’t yet seen, but that I deeply hope for.”